• AGM@lemmy.ca
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      7 hours ago

      The curse of being so busy building a legacy worth passing on that you never took time to have someone to pass it on to?

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    A good start. We need a lot more of this.

    An important one is passing on digital goods after the death of the store.

    Maybe I want to pass a game to somebody else without me needing to die first?

    Hell, why not even pass a game from my account on PSN to my Steam account or vice versa?

    With legislation, much of this becomes reality. None of it is technically impossible. it’s just nobody wants to do it. Publishers don’t really care where you buy a game, they still got paid. The stores want to be the arbiters of all.

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      There is a caveat though with digital goods. The provider is incurring a cost so they naturally want to be the ones getting paid. If you buy the game on PSN, then transfer and download on steam, valve is loosing money while Sony got money but provided no service. The publisher doesn’t care, the provider of the goods does very much.

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        Valve already allows you to buy a game elsewhere and get a Steam code though, so there’s precedent there for how much it likely costs them (i.e. not much).

        There is a limit that you’re not allowed to sell codes directly cheaper than on Steam (which is fair enough), but most of my Steam library is from Humble Bundles and the like.

        It’s certainly not costing any of them 30% to provide downloads.

        You could of course have fair use limits on the movement of your games, so you’re not transferring them about just because you can’t be arsed to go upstairs to your PC or whatever.

        And not just games. Music and video should also have better ownership rights.

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          I would bet humble bundles pays a fee to provide steam keys.

          Every single game download costs valve ~0¢ but all of them together costs them millions.

          The current system is not fair and reasonable to consumers. Allowing free transfers wouldn’t be fair to the stores.

          I for sure know which version I prefer, but I’m just saying there is a reasonable, good faith argument against free/unlimited transfers

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    So I mean for most accounts I’m aware of you could just give someone your login credentials and you can practically change ownership (name, contact info, etc.)from the account.

    Is this a bigger deal in China as accounts are tied to some form of ID?

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      valve is pretty famous for not allowing this in steam. I mean you “can” do this but i am pretty sure it goes against their TOS. AFAIK they are even pretty explicit that if you die your game licenses become invalid

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    Hopefully, I will someday be able to donate my library to a…library. While most of my catalog probably won’t interest people, there is still a small chance of passing down my culture to future generations.

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    I’ve legit thought about this a lot. I’d like someone to be able to take over my Steam account given I have over a thousand purchased games on there.

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      I like how every gamer has a Steam library full of games they’ll never play, but thinks that someone else might want to play them some day. It’s like the modern day equivalent of a grandparent’s attic.

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        I mean, my brother and I use Steam Family Sharing to access each others’ games. It’s a really generous policy nowadays. And if one of us died, I can see how being able to pass those games on to the other would be nice.

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        You’re not wrong, but at the same time, there’s that chance. I like older games, I would have been grateful to get a library like mine, lol, maybe someone else will.

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      I’m planning to put my Steam account details in the same envelope as my will and bequeath it to my kids lol. Generational games library

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          Yep that’s why I said planning to ;). There’s no practical way they can tell I’m dead, assuming people don’t try to change the credit card on file or address or anything like that. Worst case scenario it’s not that big a deal anyway. Even if they only get to play for like 6 months that’s still pretty good in my books.

          Things are in a funny state huh? I wonder what the economic impact of so much digital value disappearing into the void will be… Normally you can pass on stuff like DVD collections and other assets, but increasingly we seem to own nothing and assets die with us.

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            The credit card company is going to cancel your card once it finds out. They have access to your Social Sec I’d and credit score. They’ll know once your taxes are filed, if not sooner.

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                You think credit card companies are in the business of leaving cards bringing to dead people open? People who can no longer be held liable to pay the debts that are accrued?

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              Yeah that makes sense. But would they send a letter to Valve or something?

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                No, the credit card would get cancelled. Then if anyone wanted to buy anything else on the account, would have to put their own on it, which has their name.

                I guess if no one did that, it might be overlooked. Maybe. Honestly, who knows with how much info mega companies have managed to collect on everyone and distribute to anyone willing to pay.

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                  Tbf I’ve made a payment on my account with another person’s card.

                  I was broke and friends wanted to play a game with me and since I was already hanging out with them in person, rather than gifting the game, my friend just generated a one-time use card in Revolut and I paid using that.

                  Account still there.

                  Name on the card is not conclusive proof of death by any means.

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                  You could get around the named card issue with gifting games to the account. Not sure which would stand out the most.

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        Ah yes, bribe gamers to forget about the cultural genocide, the abductions for organ harvesting, the international kidnappings and the general funding of censorship and rewriting their own goddamn murder sprees.

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          I mean those things are valid. But I see this decision as one of those “the one that got away”. There’s a billion people there, someone was in the right place at the right time.

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        China is only as bad as your tendency to criticize your government. Free speech and associated quality issues aside, it has to function as one.

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    Every digital storefront will do an update that will “unfortunately” be incompatible with the legacy media every 10-20 years.

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      Steam could, but it would be an extremely dangerous decision. One of their biggest competitive advantages is they they break users out of the console generation gaps.

      Why buying a Steam Deck with all my old games (to say nothing of emulators) was more appealing than a Switch 2.

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        It’s only a matter of time until consoles make the jump from x86 to ARM. They will kill off the PS4-PS5 generations.

        x86 is too inefficient. ARM CPUs match x86 system performance while using a fraction of the energy. This will give future consoles a chance to use a larger GPU.

        Edit - that might be the reason why they’re going all digital for PS6. PS6 should run x86 code natively. Maybe PS7 will use an ARM cpu which will not be able to play any PS6 games natively but they will have a streaming service for the older consoles.

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          We can already run x86 code on ARM, that wont be a viable backwards compatibility excuse for next gen consoles. Xbox and Playstation may try to claim it is a reason, but it will be clear cut bull shit from the start.

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            Console makers will have little to no incentive to crate or maintain a compatibility layer or emulator. They want to charge extra for it.

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        I really only meant the big corporate ones. The niche ones would continue being awesome.