cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49310400
Alabama Republican voters and politicians meanwhile:
Then stop being a shitstain of a country
It’s pretty simple. No complicated economic theory here. If you fuck around…
Canada’s boycott of U.S. wines ‘causing devastating harm,’
That’s the point, dumbass.
If you want it to stop, talk to the clown in the white house.
This boycott wouldn’t be happening if he didn’t decide to threaten, insult and attack Canada.
I’m a Californian and support the boycott. But the majority of comments in here are misguided.
This is like commenting on an article you haven’t read about the First Minister of Scotland saying how negative Brexit is for Scotland, and responding “You shouldn’t have voted Brexit then, dumbass!”
No shit. Probably why they didn’t overwhelmingly.
Also kinda like how California has consistently, overwhelmingly, voted against Trump, and is one of the most oppositional states in the country against his fascist regime.
Idk how useful is to try to separate regions or groups in a democracy. Did those winery owners votes for Trump? Did they complain a lot when the US menaced Canada with an invasion?
false. the US administration is on record saying they don’t need us.
do you doubt dear leader?
Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn’t such a great idea.
It’s not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.
Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
Yeah all those winery owners are rich conservatives
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
You seem to be under the impression that I do not support Canadas boycott. I do. Re-read my comment.
CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is
Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1
And sane people outnumber “reactionaries”/republicans. Your point?
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn’t to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter
I’ve seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.
“Atrocities”, really? Did you bring that evidence to share with the class?
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
That’s capitalism, baby. And I hate it too.
I would agree that CA isn’t really the problem
hurt CA and you’re hurting the US
Republicans in CA
I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, “CA” would refer to Canada, as it’s literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.
And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.
That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I’ll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I’d not heard of 3166. Thanks).
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
I mean for the rest of the world noone cares what individual states think and do. The president and his administration represent the American people.
It’s not California being a dick.
California is flush with right wing reactionaries and techno-fascist shitheads.
Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
This would cause so much chaos
USA has been doing just that for years. Look up FEOC.
That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return
Also most countries like the UN rules
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US’s bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It’s not without merit either, as the “states rights” people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA’s bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.
California, home to the most evil and powerful companies in the world. Lmao.
It’s not a la carte dicks of America. It’s United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver’s seat is important and not just entertainment.
Well it’s not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can’t individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.
Some of California votes consistently Republican. The whole state is not exempt.
Some of California votes consistently Republican.
38% of California, in the last election. Mostly in rural areas.
Like the wine growing areas eh?
California senators don’t get to tell me what to buy. Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live. We have American booze on the shelves. I just don’t want to buy American garbage anymore so I’m not doing it.
Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live
I avoid most US chains and import foods simply because they’re junk, so I know what you mean, but that doesn’t negate the boycott movement of people who were regularly buying US products.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025-2026_Canadian_boycott_of_the_United_States
Boycott - To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.
For me those last words, “as an expression of protest” are important. For me there’s no protest and thus no boycott. The upset caused me to try Canadian products. I like them better.
Yes, we know you are not boycotting.
Some other people are boycotting.
No one should. Let Napa feel the pain for once.
Good.
A lot of the wines are out of California. Both the state as a whole and the wine-producing regions in it tend to not be too keen on Trump.
searches
https://wineamerica.org/policy/by-the-numbers/
California makes 85% of all US wine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_Country
Wine Country is a region of California, in the northern San Francisco Bay Area, known worldwide as a premier wine-growing region.[1]
There are over 1,700 wineries in the North Bay, mostly located in the area’s valleys, including Napa Valley in Napa County, and the Sonoma Valley,
Sonoma County voters, with 52% of votes counted as of Friday morning, firmly supported Harris with 72% of the vote, compared to 25% for Trump.
In Napa County, which had counted 32% of votes, Harris had 64%, compared to Trump’s 33%.
Did you miss the part where we Canadians genuinely do not care?
In either of those counties the minority percentages are the wealthy land owners who put huge Trump signs along the fences of their vinyards and orchards. They’re also the ones who hire the undocumented workers every season, but that’s a whole other discussion.
That’s California’s problem with the rest of their own country and their POTUS, not Canada’s problem.
Who do you think makes up that 33%?
Do you think it’s the normal people, or the obscenely wealthy vineyard owners? Take a wild guess.
IDGAF rein in your boy Yankee scum
I’m well aware. Wasn’t my point.
Won’t someone think of the poor poor drug dealing capitalists with their measly 40 billion dollar industry!
The valley itself may have split in Harris’ favor, but how do you suppose the private owners and the shareholders of the publicly traded wine companies voted? Do you think the people who actually pick and ferment the grapes would be that much better off if Canadians had never left the market? As if any downsizing and job-loss wasn’t already in the chamber and waiting for a convenient excuse to do what the ownership class was always gonna do anyway.
what’s your point
Cry more :)
Good. Boycotts work. If any of you Americans out there are wondering how you can fight…boycotts work.
My neighbourhood grocery store and liquor store have both decided to stop stocking US goods.
I don’t miss anything. As a Canadian, this is more important to me.
we’re boycotting in Europe too!
I’m trying to use as few american products as I can. It is nit easy as they have infected everyday life too much.
Not buying Nestlé is much simpler
Same, and i live here lmao
Nestle is evil but Swiss
Oh no, the boycott we initiated with the explicit intention of causing DEVASTATING HARM is causing devastating harm. Fie on intended consequences!!!
Not only will I not buy us booze if back on the shelves but I actively avoid buying any american products if possible and I will never travel there again in my life time. Fuck the pedophile and all who support him and the others who are full of apathy and avarice and sit idly by.
Aw, are Americans sad that they’re being collectively judged and punished as an indistinct collective group?
… first time?
Maybe we should actually get our own house in order?
Just, you know, that?
That first?
No whining, no conditional explanations of layers and degrees of … nah, just… actually geting our shit together?
Actually taking some accountability?
No, we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief
we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief
The rest of the world will do what we can to protect ourselves from your country’s government, but it’s up to American citizens to do the hard work of fixing their own damn country.
And I’m telling you we’re losing, dont hold your breath for us
Americans sad that they’re being collectively judged and punished
We’re not being collectively judged and punished. Some number of American wine distributors are seeing a decline in their Canadian portfolios.
Why would the rest of us give a shit? That’s their problem, not ours.
Americans sad that they’re being collectively judged and punished
We’re not […]
Nah you guys definitely are being judged
Everyone’s being judged.
I’m still judging you guys for inviting a real actual living 1930s fascist to your Parliament to applaud his work.
I mean, it was obviously a mistake but fair to judge even if it’s on a completely different scale to half your country eagerly electing a modern day pedophilic fascist a SECOND time who has proceeded to fuck over most of the world and repeatedly threatened to annex my country.
You could have mentioned Canada’s treatment of indigenous peoples and the residential schools that went on as late as the 1990s which would have also been a fair thing to judge (I judge it too) but I’m still going to judge the USA harshly for enthusiastically electing a shit starting demented pedo nazi
It has cascading effects. Boycotts are kind of great like that and also it’s why they’re so highly propogandized against. “It doesn’t work bro, it won’t change anything. Why wouldn’t you just use google” don’t buy it. Boycott more stuff.
they’re so highly propogandized against
Reading this in Alex Jones voice
on some small, sad level i probably am the deranged left equivalent of Alex. but Tim Heidecker does it funnier
Can’t believe Alex exploded in his car like that. And now he’s got a clone?
Crazy days.
I’m not judging every American individually, some did try hard to prevent this mess, but I am judging America collectively for allowing this to happen. I’m sick of being told the vast majority were against Trump. If the VAST majority are against him, he’d have lost the election by a landslide. I don’t understand the weird political inertia in America that guarantees every major candidate roughly half the votes no matter what. And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn’t vote, as though that exonerates them. Choosing not to vote means they didn’t give a fuck if fascists took over.
And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn’t vote, as though that exonerates them.
The US disenfranchises voters with a variety of techniques. One of those techniques is to foster guarantee popular candidates aren’t afforded a place on the general election ballot.
If you’ve got nobody to vote for, I can’t blame you for not voting. Demanding people participate in a ritualized farce of democracy when the race is uncontested is pure foolishness.
If you’ve got nobody to vote for, I can’t blame you for not voting
Not letting them off the hook that easily.
They could still vote against an obviously horrible candidate.
Not letting them off the hook that easily.
It’s not your hook. They’re dealing with their fascists. You’re dealing with yours.
When Canada stops putting members of the Ford family in elected offices and clapping for real literal 1930s Nazis, they can tell the Americans about how to do democracy correctly.
They could still vote against an obviously horrible candidate.
That’s not how elections work. The seat doesn’t sit vacant because enough people vote “I don’t like you” to the winning candidate.
This like all the other trade that is disappearing to the EU is going to become a permanent change. Prior allies now view the US as an enemy and aggressor and are forming alternative routes of trade. This will not be returning just because the president is changed in the future. The relationship is over.
Yeah that’s what I think as well, because Trump is just a symptom of a larger issue, he represents a large percentage of americans, especially amonght the rich, he did not get to this position without the backing of these greedy fascist pigs who know they can use him to make a lot of profit at the expense of the common people, even when he’s gone, these foreign nations still have to deal with these greedy sociopaths and their meddling in foreign affairs, not to mention the dumb voting public who might just back another little Nazi who makes them feel good about themselves
I was thinking the other day how funny it is that the Untied States has had such wide influence that multiple IPs from other countries got movies made in America (Harry Potter, Smurfs, LEGO, The Handmaid’sTale). Now that Trump has ruined America’s relationship with the rest of the world, I wonder if we’ll see less of that
I can only hope that the US snaps back hard managing to show the world that there are still good people here…maybe after civil war 2 electric boogaloo
Unless there is a Nuremberg style trial for the current administration, I don’t know how America can gain back it’s trust.
Even if Americans elect a president that is super helpful/generous to allies, there is always the chance that they elect another Trump in the following election who basically has almost free reign to do anything they want with no consequences.
The constitution that Americans beat over everyone’s heads has been revealed to be republican toilet paper.
Yeah, Trump has exposed how broken the American system is. He’s exposed American as completely incapable, or unwilling, of preventing a criminal enterprise from running the country into the ground.
I can’t believe Russia somehow won the cold war after all this time, for all the red scare anti communist shit this country went through, they now resemble Russian style oligarchy run by criminal barons more and more, how soon before Trump starts another war to justify why he needs to remain in power
Most of the good people that don’t just flee would be dead after a Civil War 2, leaving only proficient killers and crooks, or just cowards who keep their noses down. Large swathes of the country would be, for decades at least, one of “those places” that you never travel to and hear tales of barbarism from every now and then. Civil war would be a degradation, not a redemption arc.
lol, still won’t be true after a civil war
