

What do you mean by “the average buyer.” Wouldn’t all buyers currently be in the same exact position?


What do you mean by “the average buyer.” Wouldn’t all buyers currently be in the same exact position?


I believe you. I’m just saying that quality of streaming remotely hasn’t been an issue for me (other than my MIL being a boomer and messing up her settings.)


That’s not been my experience, except for my MIL who somehow keeps resetting her client quality settings to 720 making my server transcode. My ISP is also really shitty so I’m honestly not sure the bandwidth numbers leaving my server.


But it’s not a valid point of discussion when talking about open source self hosted software.
But we’re not talking about open source self hosted software. We’re in a piracy community. And I’m certainly not saying that Jellyfin is “bad” (as you suggest), only trying to paint a picture why Plex still has a place in my stack.
Yes, exposing Jellyfin safely isn’t too difficult, but it isn’t trivial either. Plex’s strength has traditionally been (and still is, if decreasingly) its relay making remote streaming trivial. And if you intend to share with non-technical users, it has to be.


I don’t see anyone “throwing trash” on Jellyfin, only pointing out that there are some downsides. Just as it also has some advantages over Plex.
Plex is undoubtedly on a downward trajectory, and I’m glad Jellyfin exists. But it does not yet have feature parity with Plex, and if you use it for music there’s simply nothing better than Plexamp. You waive away the requirements to remotely stream on Jellyfin, but the fact that you suggest simply opening up ports highlights that one of Plex’s strengths is it’s ability to remotely stream without jeopardizing your network security.
I run both concurrently, Plex for the remote streaming, OTA DVR, better living room apps, and (by far the biggest feature for me) for Plexamp. Jellyfin for proof of concept.
I’m not a Plex shill, and am preparing for a day that Jellyfin is the better answer. But for me and my users, that day hasn’t yet arrived.


That explanation makes it worse.


The sheer idiocy of this take. Libre Office (or other open source alternatives) haven’t been around forever, and paying for software you use isn’t exactly an outlandish idea.
I work with Excel a lot for work. I’ve been tempted for a few years to buy a perpetual license for my personal machine because using the same software is just easier. I haven’t, and obviously now I won’t be.
But don’t put down paying a reasonable price for a perpetual license for software you use often. It’s thinking like that that’s gotten us all-subscription options.





I use Calc, and it does just fine for my use case. But I know people in finance whose work relies on the powerful advanced features excel has and LO just doesn’t yet.
Funny enough, I haven’t touched a word processor or slide deck program in years.


I’m far from a spreadsheet super user, but Excel really is in a class by itself. The rest of the office suite, however, is easily replaced by open source.


Its your life man, feel free to sell yourself short at will.
I am genuinely confused at this statement. How am I selling myself short and what is “at will” meant to mean?


Go back 10-15 years (and ignore everything we’ve learned about Elon Musk.) Tesla’s were objectively cool.
But now they’re high priced, and software locked, track everything you do and everywhere you go, will trap you inside if caught on fire, require costly body work if in a fender bender which also takes forever, have replaced buttons with screens and door handles with software, and depreciate like a lead balloon.
No, dumbass, we’re not against EVs, we’re against your version of EVs. If Honda ever puts out an Accord EV with Android Auto / Car Play (and priced appropriately), the EV wars are over. That’s all we want.


Because much of the stated reason for EVs is the money you’ll save on fuel and maintenance costs, so spending extra money on something you’ll use once per year doesn’t fit the money saving narrative.
Ultimately, what I and the other commenter is saying is a once a year “need” really isn’t a need at all. To further my example, if I lived in the snow or traveled there regularly, then AWD is likely a reasonable expense, but if very rarely used it would make more sense to rent/borrow. Same goes for a truck (for hauling), or gasoline car for the range.
I drive an EV now and my next car will likely be an ICE AWD vehicle. But I’m also aware that it’s not the most economically sound decision and I’d be buying it for fun. Under no circumstances would I be justifying it by the longer range (which I very seldom need) or to travel to the snow.


Not to mention the need at some point to replace the battery, which can cost thousands.
I don’t mention that and the depreciation bullet point to disparage EV adoption. It’s a good thing we are moving away from ICE to EV. But it’s a little like two steps forward one step back, and most people don’t talk about the one step back parts.


Now, that depreciation may be (or probably is) offset by the decreased fuel and maintenance costs, but I see this point too often ignored.


“Consider”, yes. But buy based on every need, no.
I go skiing once per year. Should I buy a vehicle with all-wheel drive just to satisfy that one need? Of course not.


Keyboard setup would be a system level setting, no?


I consider that a website problem, not a me problem. I choose what I do on the internet, the internet doesn’t dictate the software I use.


I’d agree that buying an Intel Mac Pro three years ago and losing support is shitty, but on the other hand anyone buying Intel in the past six years certainly should’ve known their days were numbered.
Ya, you’re definitely confusing instance with community. I get the argument that fragmented communities can be a problem, but the ability to roll your own instance is not the same thing and is in fact the strength of the fediverse.