• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    Boys and men can get this vaccine now as well!! Everyone should get it to help protect against HPV and the associated cancers.

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      Genuinely curious because I don’t know much about HPV, can males carry HPV? Is it implicated in cancers other than cervical?

      Sorry for my profound ignorance. I didn’t take time to think before asking

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        I believe that initially they were only able to directly connect the vaccine to fewer deaths from cervical cancer. Something like warts is not deadly so probably not considered.

        Then it was recommended that boys also get the vaccine because they can be carriers

        However now we know the virus causes other forms of cancer as well. Men are not just carriers but can also have cancers caused by the virus.

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        Penis cancer is a thing. Yes, males get HPV and are half the problem. HPV also responsible for a lot of throat cancers.

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          I was looking it up myself too, I didn’t realize that there are hundreds of HPV variants and is the cause of warts. Seems a little silly now to think it was primarily a virus that only causes cervical cancer.

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            Not so silly and now you know! Thanks for asking the question so others could chime in with info :)

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              Thanks Velma, I appreciate your understanding! If I were shutting down chuds the same way you do every day, I probably wouldn’t have had that same amount of patience with my own question

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                Hey I really appreciate that, thank you. I much prefer these types of convos where everyone is respectful and inquisitive.

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      I’d have to pay 150€ per shot because they didn’t vaccinate boys when I was underage. Only started doing it 2 years ago :(

      And they don’t do adults because they’ve calculated that not enough lives would be saved for it to be financially worth it. The one downside of socialized healthcare.

      Now the irony is, the longer I put it off, the less likely it would have any benefit

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        I’m curious because I don’t know enough about the…uk? Is that where you’re from?

        Mexico has private health providers that one can go to if they want to pay for something the universal healthcare won’t cover. Is it similar there?

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          Estonia, UK uses £

          And yes, I can go private, but then it’s 150€ per shot (and 3 shots total) for a vaccine that’s less and less likely to benefit me or my future partners now that I’m in my 30s. The issue being, the more partners you’ve had without it, the more likely you already have some strain of HPV, which the vaccine then can’t help against.

          And if I’d known about all this 4 years ago I would’ve just gone and gotten it because it’s not really a lot of money in my line of work, but 3 years ago I met my lovely ex who put me in enough debt that 150€ (roughly 3000 Mexican Pesos; 3x that for all 3 shots) is actually a considerable amount of money for something that might not even have any benefit anymore (literally because of the same ex in fact - I stumbled upon a real treat. Wasted all of my money, coerced me into taking out a lot of loans AND slept with half the country while we were together).

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            Thanks, I knew I had it wrong but asked instead of searching around. I appreciate the info!!

            Oof yeah that’s a good chunk of change for something like this. I’m sorry you weren’t able to get it earlier!

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    FYI, you can get the vaccine as an adult too. Ask your doctor about it at your next check up.

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      Or your pharmacist. I had a shitty doctor who wouldn’t give it for religious reasons. My pharmacist didn’t even ask why I wanted a vaccination through her.

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        I had a shitty doctor who wouldn’t give it for religious reasons.

        I’m sure it was just someone that has sexual hangups, but I like the idea of someone that is objects to it for an entirely different religious reason. They’re religiously opposed to treating cancer. They’re bizarrely, ideologically, obsessively pro-life, and they consider it a damnable offense to harm anything that has human DNA. A cancer is just another form of human being! They take the “every cell is sacred” idea quite literally!

        I can’t give you chemotherapy. That could hurt the cancer. And that’s a person!

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        My insurance tried to argue with my doctor over whether they would give it to me. They said it was “experimental “ but my doctor was able to argue that they were wrong and got them to approve it after all.

        If your pharmacist hooked you up like that I’m jealous! So much easier.

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          I can’t get my shingles vax (unless I pay) for a few more years. I really wish that was available when I was a kid because shingles suuuuuucks and we very well could eliminate it if there was enough buy in.

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            I want to pay out of pocket and they won’t let me because Im not old enough!

            I already had shingles in my mid 30s and it was an unbelievably excruciating experience. it felt like someone was piercing me with hot needles on the right side of my chest and it lasted for over a week.

            But no vaccine because reasons…

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    But the latest data shows vaccination rates across the country have fallen below recommended levels.

    Data from the UK Health Security Agency shows that 76% of girls in England were vaccinated by the age of 15 in 2024-25, well below the 90% that the World Health Organization (WHO) says is needed to eliminate cervical cancer.

    “It’s essential that the UK Government and health systems urgently address this with targeted action to reach communities where uptake is the lowest,” says Michelle Mitchell at Cancer Research UK.

    Wait, it’s not mandatory? It should be for eligible groups of people, there is no reason people should be dying from preventable diseases

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      Morons who are parents think HPV vaccine will turn their daughters into sluts.

      You have to have kids to really appreciate how stupid the world is.

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        I’m suspecting the women most concerned about their girls being sluts had multiple partners (possibly protected by rhythm or the pill only) before they were married. But they think they can raise their girls better than they were.

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      I live in the US, but my mom wouldn’t let me get it because “it’s only for people who sleep around” and something something it’s actually bad for you anti-vax bullshit. The implication being that if I got cervical cancer from HPV I would have fucking deserved it.

      I got it later as an adult, because it bothered me not to have it even though I’m divorced and single AF, because fuck you mom, and you never know I guess.

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      No vaccine is mandatory in the UK. You have the right to decline (or your guardian can on your behalf).

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    For what it’s worth one of my sisters had the vaccine and started menopause in her late 20s. She found out that she cannot have children and blames the vaccine. I’m not entirely sure what to believe but I definitely think it’s possible.

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    How strange. I would have thought the death rate among cervical cancers would have approached 100%. This must be a very ineffective vaccine indeed. Not only did it not prevent cancer, it made the cancers immune to all treatment! /s