Technically they can do the same but its not worth the hassle. I could have been more clear on that in my OP.

Case in point, we had a large HVAC fail. They wanted it hauled to the land fill. I thought what a waste, I’ll cut it up and take the condensers/copper to the scrappers and get a bunch of money and send it to HQ. I was already on the clock doing nothing and hoped to my us look good.

Cut it up in less than an hour, took to the scrapper on my time on my way home. Walked out with a fist full of cash and the receipt. Deposited the cash and wrote a check for the amount I got and sent it to finance.

I got is so much trouble for that. Finance didn’t want to deal w/ the paperwork. They went to their exec to complain to my exec and it was a shit show. Basically I was told we are a multi billion dollar corp and these small checks aren’t worth the labor to deal with.

As for “giving it away” you would be fired by COB if they found out. Especially over 3rd party gear. Liability was their biggest concern. I have posted a few examples in other reply’s.

Is it stupid, it is, I totally agree. But its incentivized to take the path of least resistance.

Thats an aspect I hadn’t considered, licensing. Unless you keep it off line your right its a boat anchor. What fun is that as you can’t update?

I agree on the risk aspect and that was the driving force. I had more examples I got from the exec’s like “What if one of these old servers burn a house down? Who you think they are going to sue”.

Also on the recycling side that there are checks in place that if say my company says “no” to refurb that they shred the servers up and recycle the bits they can.

But something has to give, over my career I have seen so much just be carted off to the landfill it would make you sick. And I worked small data centers. Nothing like what they are proposing now.

Interesting, maybe w/ my company they just don’t want to risk it w/ 3rd party (customers) equipment. Or more likely we don’t have the authority to tell the recycler that because its not our gear?

I know with our gear we ship it back to depot when its no longer in use as we have other centers that can use it. Or the repair group will part it out for future repairs.

I will say it chaps my ass seeing a roll away taken away w/ 5-10 million dollars of gear to be crushed.

Same w/ the cardboard, I asked for a bailer, too dangerous, denied. Asked for a cardboard only dumpster, again denied. We had a local charity picking it up as they made a few bucks off it. That got nixed for liability concerns… I gave up at that point.

Came here to say the same, I’m more than happy to help!

Everyone.

Its not worth it to them. They are making money hand over fist with these services and they right them off. So there is zero incentive to keep the gear.

Sometimes we buy the entire system for a dollar if we can use it on our network. Meaning we built these data centers for our systems. If there is space in them we allow colocation of other companies gear. Its better than empty racks and we charge a lot.

And I would be interested on how they are referbing the equipment and selling for a profit. When its devalued to zero it gets messy w/ the tax code. Not throwing shade, I would rather go this way then the landfill but this is what I was told by the executives. Also liability, someone illegally dumps them and the DNR runs the serial numbers they come back to you.

I got in a ton of trouble when I recycled (for no money, I raged on this point) a pile of battery bank cells and didnt require the scrap dealer to list all the SN on the invoice.

I have been working in data centers for decades. You have no idea the amount of waste there is. We fill up roll away dumpsters w/ boxes/packing materials when a new customer comes in.

They do an upgrade, ever server/switch/router etc ends up in the dumpster. Even if they are perfectly good and it isn’t worth shipping back or they have devalued to zero so they cannot be sold for tax purposes. Oh and another round of boxes/packing materials in the dumpster.

Some customers demand proof we destroy their servers (not drives). So we record one of us on a fork truck running over hundreds of servers. That part is kinda fun.

Areas uninsulated w/ AC blasting. Machines running that are idle as backup to the backup.

On paper we recycle them, but most of the time they end up in a landfill.

Real life Fallout’s “Glowing Fungus”

Oh you know some heads are going to roll for botching a simple requirement like public notice not being done…

If I had that and the farm I’m in the alpha stage of developing I could feed from Virginia to New England w/ that kind of land.

2100 acres is insanely big!

Found another link

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/cleveland-voted-to-kill-its-flock-camera-network-they-have-remained-on-with-police-still-using-them/ar-AA2753Wl

*Former

Day 2 of someone putting in a great Monty Python related meme on my subs!

wink wink nudge nudge you know what I mean?

You can’t, you can get visa’s to stay there but you can never be a chinese citizenship/passport.

This is all about ethnically cleansing the chinese born minorities to be all han chinese.

Cereal prices killed me. I went to generics which were fine and then they got too expensive. So I learned to make my own, sugar smacks are really easy to make and taste WAY better. Plus you can tweak the recipe like I add toasted almonds in mine, local honey, etc.

Jerky was the other, bought a dehydrator and wait for skirt to be on sale. I have a clone of Wild Bills and I’m good to go.

And you can do so much more w/ a dehydrator. Veggie? You can make awesome fruit strips/etc

The inertia is too large.

Myspace, Digg and Slashbot thought that too. Look at FB basically a bot farm like reddit. Something new will come along, maybe its Lemmy, it was Voat for a second. Discord, IG, TikTac have all be chipping away at them.

They all will fall down if they over reach.

Not being combative, its just how this goes imo.

Its big companies that screw them the most. I have worked for multiple multi billion dollar corporations that will screw Team Viewer over even though its how we get customers into their down servers. And it wasn’t one data center, its every data center I have ever worked in (30 years in)

If the license is free, they will screw them.

*I know TV hasn’t been around that long, but WinRAR has been and it was another company I saw screwed.

Oh you know old.reddit its next.

I can still log in after my mass banning. So I get all the subs I like (not mains, hobbies), they get no ad revenue as I adblock everything. They just get a BS stat that I was there and they killed off my engagement stats because of the frivolous ban.

Its like they can’t see they are driving towards a cliff.

Last company I worked for was about 85% of phasing out HR for AI. It was a nightmare for new hires, checking benefits, changing benefits, and so on… Also it was zero tolerant in firing decisions and the humans they had left never strayed from AI’s recommendations.

They started trying w/ IT but was such a disaster the put it on the back burner.

It was Grape Flavo-Aid, if you’re gonna talk smack at least do it right…