• quack@lemmy.zip
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    7 days ago

    Everything I’ve ever learned about Ed Sheeran has been against my will.

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    7 days ago

    I feel a tiny sorry for Ed (not that a guy who has an estimated £400 million net worth needs my sympathy), but he’s just some poor rich schlub who’s been planning to tour around a bit, play some uncontroversial songs, earn another hundred million, mind his own business and then… kapow!.. he’s front and centre in a fight that’s he’s clearly ill-equiped to even interact with.

    “Whuh? I just wanted to play some bland music and earn enough money to buy myself a ginger island. What the flip is going on?”

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      7 days ago

      kapow!.. he’s front and centre in a fight that’s he’s clearly ill-equiped to even interact with.

      You say that like artists - especially Irish artists - haven’t been front and center on agitating against the Palestinian Genocide for years now.

      He organized tour full of pro-Palestinian activists, ffs. Mackelmore isn’t some new figure, either. Jumping on popular leftist initiatives is kinda his brand.

      If Sheeren had formed a band with Greenpeace, would he be blindsided when they started talking about the environment?

      Like, I’m half inclined to give him some credit just for putting this thing together. Better to have it implode on you than to never tour at all.

      Did Ed suicide bomb his career in the name of Palestine? Maybe

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    5 days ago

    Hate the fact Ed gets all the shit for not showing the spine, while little to no consequence for Robert Kraft, apparently the man who blackmailed Ed. Like okay, you can blame a multi millionaire for choosing money over humanitarian cause, but are you guys seriously going to drag him through the dirt while the actual culprit sits upon his billion dollar stash? Like wtf, this guy literally cornered ed, and all that happens to him is people are reminded he’s in Epstein files. That’s genuinely unfair.

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      4 days ago

      ED has performed in his wedding, he is totally complicit for his sugar daddy. the fact that he remained silent until the pressure was too great means, he doesnt actually side with macklemore.

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      The problem is means to inflict consequence. Access.

      Sheeran is an entertainer, so we as a public mass have obvious ways to impact him - stop listening to his music, and complain to companies that depend on our participation (radio stations) that we don’t want to hear him.

      Most of us have never heard of Kraft. We do not know what discretionary things we can stop doing to hurt his career. He is a billionaire who owns property and business - so he is less vulnerable overall to public outcry.

      And you know who is even less vulnerable and more culpable? The current government of Israel. Why arent we attacking them? They are the ones actually guilty of the genocide. Why? Lack of access.

      Really, the only way to systemically support Palestinians is to support democratic candidates at the federal level who will shut down US subsidies to Israel.

      But people are terrified of our democratic machine because our populace has put its own maniac and his goons in twice.

      Compared to facing the existential dread of likely needing some kind of civil conflict here to desperately try to correct the balance of power to something more humane…

      Calling radio stations to complain about Sheeran feels pretty good.

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      This is only a half truth. It sounds all nice to give Ed a break and put all the blame on Robert Kraft. That’s a nice fantasy land to live in, but Ed has a responsibility here, and he is failing to live up to that, and criticism of Ed is completely warranted and justified.

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        I don’t get how Ed is more responsible here than Kraft. The man who literally wanted Macklemore out of the tour for his views, and the one who blackmails Ed Sheeran by threatening his career, and you somehow believe Ed is the one more responsible than Kraft?

        Look, Ed’s rich, he has more money than he can spend in his entire life. He was in a position to defend Macklemore, but he chose to not. That’s where his fault lies. But him getting the worst of it instead of Kraft? That’s not fantasy, that’s just people choosing the easier target of the two.

        Infact not holding Kraft responsible is exactly what man like him wants and is sending a message that he can do it again, and people will just blame the artist not him.

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          I didn’t say that Ed is more responsible than Kraft. Never said that. Never implied it. You’re just dreaming up nonsense.

          I actually want to hold both of them accountable where you feel like Ed, for some reason, gets a pass and doesn’t have any accountability. That is comical.

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      while little to no consequence for Robert Kraft,

      Today is literally the first time I have encountered that name.

      I guess I’ll have to do some research to discover who he is as what he’s done to earn the internet ire.

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      I was just in the Republic, and had a couple good pub conversations about Sheeran. When I was attempting a nuanced take on the subject, one guy interrupted me to say “Well, before you get into it more, you do realize he’s an unmusical cunt, right?”

      But mainly, people were out demonstrating against Trump’s visit. “PEDO FUCK OFF” was one of the more concise placards.

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    6 days ago

    A shame it’s taken this long to get his “music” off the airwaves. It should have happened years ago.

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    6 days ago

    I know exactly one 2012 song from Macklemore and one 2017 song from Ed Sheeran. And that is the extent of my expertise on their biographies.

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    I’m old but Ed Sheeran has been around long enough and is big enough for at least one of his songs to float into the pop culture reflecting pool so I’d at least recognize a chorus or a lyric or two, but nothing seems to have stuck. Again, I’m old and don’t listen to new music anymore. I find musical nuggets in the past now, before I was born. Louis Prima rocks! Will Ed’s music stand the test of time?

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      I have a burning hatred for “pop” so I’m very biased on this, but, no. All his songs I’ve been exposed to (and right now I can only think of “shape of you”, after looking for track names) are, in my opinion, forgettable at best.

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    Someone more up with the drama - what did he do exactly? From what I gathered - he organized the tour with artists who were going to do it (the speech), he never protested it, didn’t say anything to Macklemore, allowed all to happen, even came out with a pro-palestine statement, but everyone here is seemingly acting like he was the one who did all the pushback.

    Sure, could have a bigger spine, but I don’t quite see what he did so wrong he deserves amongst the biggest hate waves I’ve seen online.

    Would it have been better for him and Palestine to never have organized this so that it never have happened? Do you seriously think what happened was a direct harm to Palestine by Ed?

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      What pro palestine statement? The one where he said he didn’t want to take any sides, and by doing so, took the side of non resistance, supporting Israel in their genocide?

      He decided money is more important than supporting an anti-genocidal message. He’s got every right to do so, but everyone else has got every right to call him a fucking pussy who doesn’t have the balls to stand up against a venue boycutting his long time friend because of a few anti-genocide opinions. The venue he ended up siding with had no problem having Kanye West praise Hitler on stage a year or so ago. So do you see why this makes Ed a fucking wanker?

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        What? No.

        https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/sep/15/ed-sheeran-response-macklemore-free-palestine-comment

        Even the artists who dropped out made it quite clear Ed is not at fault. He organized the thing for fucks sake.

        So do you see why this makes Ed a fucking wanker?

        No, I don’t. Just because he isn’t the type of person to attack others, protest loudly, make drama or burn shit down, does not, at least to me, mean he’s a wanker. He did everything to the best of his abilities and you really need to understand what this sentence means

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          I am appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine,” he wrote in the first of several bullet-point statements. “The suffering and pain caused on both sides is a human tragedy.

          He’s both-siding this shit ffs. Palestinians are being murdered in a genocide, and this prick is like “Yea, but like, israelis are really having a hard time too”

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            Yes, the good Israelis are getting punished for speaking out too. NAZA documentary authors (who are from Israel) are also under fire now.

            Of course, the comparison between suffering seems silly, I’ll give you that.

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        So just to be clear, the hate is not about what he did, but what he could have done better? The only option for him was to cancel the tour and pay a cancellation fee of around 70 million (10 shows).

        Dude organized the whole thing, it naturally received pushback, naturally billionaires did their ultimatums, and now Ed is getting absurd amount of hate because he chose not to pay them 70 million but rather just finish the thing?

        Yeah, I still don’t quite get it.

        I guess the best option here for everyone would have been to avoid any pro-Palestine artists and it should have been a smooth ride for him, with no hate-wave that’s happening right now.

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          He could have done anything to fight back, have the lawyers make an argument kraft broke the deal by firing macklemore, so sheeran wouldn’t be liable. Go on stage and maliciously comply with the performance.

          I guess you have a point i dont really know the details, did he hire replacement backups?

          Maybe if he goes on stage alone and even says “hey i have to do this show or else i owe $70M” then does an uninspired solo acoustic performance, that would be quite admirable.

          I guess as far as i know, and happy to be corrected, he got replacements and still does the shows as best he can, which really is the most cowardly thing he could do in the situation.

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            Knowing Ed, he already did enough by organizing the tour which ended up bringing attention to the cause. I expect nothing more of him. Therefore I cannot hate something that’s fully expectable and normal. What he did was better than not doing anything, and now we (well, you) all hate him for it lmao

            The more I think about it, the more fucked up this is. Straight up bullying.

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              So he organized a tour so that his zionist patrons can make more money, and when they fired the pro-Palestinian musicians that redeemed his capitalist musical tour for zionist profit, he said OK and moved on with the tour.

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            So you’re then inevitably saying he made the right choice, but simply isn’t the person to yell at others or burn shit down, yet we expect him to, and that’s why we hate him(?)

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              No.

              1. Supporting the Palestinians is the right choice.

              2. Supporting people supporting the Palestinians is right but to a lesser degree.

              3. Not supporting people supporting the Palestinians is wrong.

              4. Not supporting the Palestinians is wrong to a greater degree.

              Ed Sheeran is in camp 3