• ryper@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    6 months ago

    “Effective immediately, the ​United States Navy, the Finest in ​the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING ‌any ⁠and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz,” said Trump, who is strongly opposed to the ​idea of ​Iran charging ⁠ships a toll to pass through the strait.

    “I have also ​instructed our Navy to seek and ​interdict ⁠every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one ⁠who ​pays an illegal toll ​will have safe passage on the high seas,” he ​said.

    Pretty sure what Trump is opposed to is him not getting a cut of the toll.

    • floofloof@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      6 months ago

      Once again the whole world has to suffer because of Trump’s insatiable ego and greed, and his bottomless stupidity. May he be gone soon.

    • Andy@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      This is truly an April Fools-level move.

      The US is closing the Strait? The generals couldn’t open it, so Hegseth said, ‘Okay! I’ve got it! We declare that WE’RE closing it, NOT THEM!’

      How … is this better?

      • stickyprimer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        Iran was allowing some ships through. The logic is that if it’s closed to the US it must be closed to everyone (it was not before).

        Do I think this is a good move? No. Do I think Trump and Hegseth have three brain cells between them? No.

        But it also isn’t hard to understand their angle here. It’s not better for anyone. But the idea is to make it worse for Iran than the previous phase, where they had control of the strait.

        • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          Gonna be a hard sell to the rest of the world who is largely able to negotiate passage with Iran. US navy is gonna hijack ships enroute from the strait to China?

          • stickyprimer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            6 months ago

            I agree. A US blockade of Hormuz was actually always a reserve strategy to put a chokehold on China if they invade Taiwan. Now we’re just playing that card for no fucking reason at all. This administration is dumb as fuck and I can’t believe there isn’t even anyone in the military who can stop them. I guess that’s what we see with Hegseth’s long line of dismissals.

    • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      He did previously say that as the “winners” of the war, the US was entitled to collect that toll, basically. So, yeah, I think you’re spot on.

    • magnue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      Yeah but if they say it this way it sounds like they’re in control of the situation

  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    6 months ago

    Is it my imagination, or is that stretch of water and the water surrounding it not US territory, thus making what he wants to do (interdict) kind of … piracy?

        • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          6 months ago

          Expect it to continue because he isn’t going to stop while he has power.

          • JaumeI@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            Our only hope is that Europe and China get tired of the crybaby and begin to do something for real, I guess.

              • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                6 months ago

                those people being rounded up and sent off to camps where they’re disappearing? how dare they be rounded up and disappear instead of dying at the problem for us.

                • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  No I mean the 350+ million other Americans who continue going to work every day to keep the corrupt fascist machine running.

  • Akh@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    6 months ago

    He cant blockade something controlled by someone else who already shut it.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    What’s next: America blowing up its own bases in the Middle East? Killing its own soldiers? Crashing its own planes?

  • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    I think he’s just pissed off that Iran is letting Chinese ships thorough. So now the question is whether Trump is stupid and deranged enough to attack any Chinese ships that ignore this illegal blockade, which would probably kick off World War 3 in earnest.

    • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      If it broke out in WW3 then I think most of the world’s public support would be behind China. The US has always been a hostile bully but Americans generally kept it contained to poorer countries that didn’t have as much of a voice. Now though…

  • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    6 months ago

    He wants the money, that Iran wasn’t charging before he invaded, for himself is as near I can figure. Master negotiator with a grand plan.