Everything about the way Israel conducts itself flies in the face of the spirit of competition. They should not be allowed into any sport. They shouldnt be allowed into Eurovision either. They are thugs and cheaters. Sports and terrorism are incompatible.
What depresses me about Eurovision is that they came second 2 years in a row. Which means European people voted for them.
Not really, didn’t you hear about the voting manipulation scandal at the last one?
Norway is absolutely right.
How about kicking Israel out of Israel, maybe there was a reason it was done the first time?
We don’t talk about why Canaanites were kicked out of Israel and then Egypt.
Yeah we don’t talk about that because that implies there is something wrong with the Jewish race or religion… so it’s an objectively antisemitic line of thinking.
Maybe there is something wrong with religion in general?
Maybe thee is something wrong with thinking you are the chosen from God.
There is
Ahh racism
All religion is problematic.
That’s not racist or antisemitic.
tbh it’d rate their chances better if they just gave FIFA a big comical money bag with $$$ on the side of it and full of chocolate
At the time when IOC is restoring russia back to the games I think this campaign will likely follow that of the Norwegian NT.
Why wouldn’t Iran and the US also be kicked out?
What country did Iran invade? The US has political backing.
Iran has been a colonial power in Lebanon, Yemen, and Gaza for a long time now.
Their actions resulted in half a million dead in Syria before they finally threw off their yoke.
Colonization is the act of displacing the local population for your own settlers.
It’s ok, bud. You can try to obfuscate Israel’s colonial actions. Just keep in mind that there are Canadians on Lemmy and we know what colonialism is.
I actually am Canadian, and there’s quite a number of Syrians that live here. They came here because Iran’s puppet Assad and Iran’s proxy Hezbollah did some things in Syria.
So yes, Iranian colonialism adventure in the Arab world has definitely displaced a large number of people. Many of the people Iran’s government has displaced live in Canada now. If you were actually Canadian you’d know this.
No, they came here because there was a family dictatorship under the Assads for several decades who precede the Iranian regime and who invited Iran and Hezbollah as allies to help in the civil war to maintain power.
You’re not very informed.
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Soccer is a sport. No country should be excluded based on politics including Russia.
Why not? Why allow a country committing war crimes to participate on the global sports or entertainment stage like everything is normal?
Panthera is a rage-bait troll, don’t mind them
I assumed so, but I like to put up a defense sometimes, because otherwise people only see their nonsensical points.
Why allow Israel to participate and the USA to host the fucking thing?
Both are committing war crimes right now. But I guess pointing out blatant hypocrisy is rage baiting too lol.
The host is chosen years ahead of the event. And the US is one of the hosts they are not hosting the thing.
Because contests should not be political. In the 2026 Winter Olympics, a Ukrainian athlete was removed for putting the names of dead Ukrainian soldiers on his helmet.
That isn’t equivalent because Ukraine did not commit warcrimes. Why shouldn’t a country committing warcrimes be blocked?
Who would determine if war crimes were committed?
Who would determine [whether] war crimes were committed?
Geneva conventions.
Stop sea-lioning.
Someone would have to determine whether the Geneva Conventions were violated. I think it’s better for simply the best athletes to compete, not the best athletes from countries which behave in an approved way. Some believe that the US didn’t follow the Geneva Convention when it attacked Venezuelan ships supposedly carrying drugs. Yet, the US hosted the World Cup.
Global consensus would be best. A united league of nations to discuss it would work otherwise. But, barring all of that, I’ll use my own judgement. Isreal has committed warcrimes. Russia has committed warcrimes. I’m ok with them being shunned from global sports and entertainment. And, if it is determined that my country is actively committing warcrimes, then we should be shunned too.
Some believe the US violated international law when it attacked Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs. There hasn’t been any investigation. Remember FiFA President Infantino let Balogun play after Trump called. Perhaps some countries have influence. Wouldn’t it be simpler to just let the best players compete?
Simpler, sure. Morally incorrect. America should be investigated for attacking those ships, and if it was found to be a warcrime, they should be held to task.
I think it’s simpler not to let the thieving, cheating Russians compete. Someone has to pay the price for Putin.
We don’t exclude them because of politics; like, because we don’t like their policy on women’s rights.
We exclude them because they belligerently attacked their neighbour and reject their neighbour’s right to exist peacefully.
That’s different. It’s less “we don’t like that kid so he can’t play in our sandbox” and more “he attacked that other kid with a rock so he can’t come over because he’s a fucking criminal”.
What about attacking Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs?
What about Iran? So hypocritical lol. It’s really the neighbor that did Russia in, attacking a country halfway around the world is totally fine. Because they are not white, pray to the wrong god and speak funny.
I’m so tired of everyone complaining about fascist MAGA. Complain more about fascist liberals.
Russia bad lol… hosts “soccer” world cup in the fucking fascist USA. Fucking priceless grumble grumble
Exactly. It would be simpler to just let all countries compete.
Huh which God do they pray to? As far as I know all the middle eastern pray to the same god as the crazy Americans.
I believe in the American Gods mythology where there are like 10 different Jesus Christs lol. Every religious sect spawns a new god.
So should Iran be banned from participating in sports? They’ve attacked multiple countries. Iran also rejects Israel’s right to exist peacefully.
Why should Iran be banned they haven’t invaded their neighbors nor have they been wantonly slaughtering women and children like Israel has.
They’ve fired missiles at pretty much every country in the region.
They provide direct support to Hamas which have actually engaged in the slaughtering women and children. This is the act that led to the Gaza war.
They have been slaughtering Iranian people as well.
When has Israel ever existed peacefully. I think at this point people would take that.
Then you should stop with the hatred which leads to villages in Israel being massacred. You’ve seen what that hatred has led to. It’s obvious to anyone that Palestinians will not achieve anything through violence, do you want another Gaza war for the next generation of Palestinians? The result will be the same.
What is the end goal of promoting hatred of Israel? Do you want Iran to send another wave of Palestinians into the meat grinder so you can continue to perpetuate hatred?
Let’s include Palestine then.
Yes! Let’s make them a country and include them in the Olympics and the UN. We already had borders drawn up but I’m sure they’d want to bargain for a more equitable and contiguous space given their shit-bag neighbour.
The problem is that Palestine isn’t a country.
And, pray tell, why aren’t they a country?
You’re so close.
Israel won’t allow it.
Cool.
Therefore…
International sports events are INTERNATIONAL, if you play so far outside the rules as Israel is doing, you don’t deserve to participate in international events as a country.
Of course by that standard we shouldn’t have participation from Russia and USA either.As an American, I agree, we dont deserve to be invited to international events. Ending the current war criminality starts with agreeing theres a problem in the first place.
You brought up a problem. There is no means of determining what actions disqualify a country. To make it simple, just let all countries participate in contests and keep politics out.
There is no means of determining what actions disqualify a country.
That is blatantly false, it’s actually very easy to determine. For instance starting a war attacking another country unprovoked, could be a rule. Not committing genocide could be another rule.
How do you arrive at the weird conclusion that such rules would be impossible to determine?
Then just make a list of rules so countries know what behavior is unacceptable.
There are obviously means of determining which actions disqualify a country. We know that because the fucking Russians were fucking disqualified. There were criteria, they met them, and they got banned.
That’s what a ban is. That’s how basic shit works, troll. JFC.
There’s no means of determining what actions disqualify a country?
You really think Russia was banned from IOC participation for no clear reason and that it wasn’t explained at all? There are some very simple means you can employ to determine what actions disqualified them.
Then there would have to be a written list of disqualifying actions. Of course, this could differ depending on the contest. There are myriads of contests, beauty, music, movies, hotdog eating, chess etc. I would just make it simple and remove politics from all contests.
Why? Why would there need to be a written list?
You seem to think this is the law or something. FIFA can do whatever they want with their tournament.
Without written rules, rules could constantly change and countries do not know what behavior is unacceptable.
Don’t pretend like you’d read such a list. You just said you had no way to figure out why a country would be banned from an international competition just one comment ago. If you couldn’t even think of reading an official explanation, we’re supposed to believe that a list that would be published in the same place would result in you being better informed?
It’s pretty dead simple to ban a country from competition for being warmongering and genocidal. What would be complicated?
Proving it. Also, some countries have influence. Is there anyone investigating the US over attacking Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs?
What does that have to do with you not knowing that when countries get banned from international competitions, it’s easy to find out exactly why, and that having such policies is pretty simple?
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