• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    It has been 20 for like 20 years. Anything else is foolish. Any argument for 30 that involves “inflation” is stupid and doesn’t understand how percents work. Like 20 or not, that’s the norm. If you don’t like paying it then either don’t go out or go places that are cheaper so it’s less.

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      2 months ago

      Naw fuck that. They get tipped what they earned. If it’s 5$. If it’s 30$. It in the rare case, 0. You don’t deserve a tip unless you provide the service to go with it. If I see you once or twice, and I have dirty dishes and have to call over another wait staff to refill drinks. Get fucked.

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          2 months ago

          (From the service they claim to get, I’d bet regularly and at the same restaurants that remember their no-tipping ass and want them to not come back.)

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            2 months ago

            Yeah, it’s like if you aren’t prepared to tip the standard tip, you shouldn’t go out. If people want to argue that bad service deserves less and good service deserves more, that’s fine, but if you aren’t even ready to consider that you’ll likely need to pay 20% then just don’t go.

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              2 months ago

              Seriously, it isn’t that hard. There’s plenty of lesser quality but still very good chains to choose from in the Five Guys tier if you don’t want to tip.

              Hell, guess what I do when I don’t want to tip, I go to one of those lol, it’s not like I don’t practice what I preach here!

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          2 months ago

          Once in a great while. Is not often I get someone so bad at their job they don’t deserve at least a little. It’s hilarious that dumb fucks here downvote me for saying tipping is a service based monetary gift.

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            2 months ago

            Nobody ever said it was anything else, it’s just weird that the first thing someone would say in response to what percentage tip is appropriate to say you give nothing. It makes it sound like that’s a very frequent occurrence for you.

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              2 months ago

              That’s the thing. 20% isn’t appropriate. It’s whatever the person has earned. That’s what’s appropriate.

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                    2 months ago

                    The standard is 20%. That means average service (from a bell curve perspective) is worth 20% of your subtotal. That’s what society has agreed on. If you don’t like it, that’s fine, I dislike how servers are compensated as well, but it’s the reality we live in.

                    Saying that “20% isn’t appropriate” and insisting it’s instead “what is earned,” when nobody but yourself suggested it, is just odd behavior that makes you sound cheap. Everybody knows tips are earned. When someone says a 20% tip is standard they aren’t saying you must leave a 20% tip even if the service was awful.