Food delivery robots are struggling to steer clear of Chicago’s bus stop shelters. Within just 48 hours, two autonomous couriers from different companies veered off course and collided with shelters shattering glass and alarming nearby residents. These pair of dramatic incidents come amidst brewing tension among community members and lawmakers in Chicago who oppose the robots’ presence. The crashes also come just weeks after one of the manufacturers announced it was integrating a new mapping system trained on “Pokémon Go” data which is designed to improve navigation accuracy.

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    3 months ago

    They get to abuse public infrastructure to build their stupid little robots tax free, and we get to pay for the repairs with our tax dollars.

    Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.

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      3 months ago

      Require them to fix AND pay a fine, or let the city fix it and pay 4x the cost AND still pay the fine. Shit will stop happening quick.

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      3 months ago

      Seems they’re covering it for now, but it’s anyone’s guess how long the conscientious PR approach will last.

      Hansen adds that the company quickly dispatched a team to retrieve the robot and clean up the area. Coco has also launched an internal investigation to determine what caused the robot’s error. In the meantime, it says it’s taking responsibility for the cost of repairing the wrecked shelter.

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        3 months ago

        As sad as it is, it’s rather nice to see a tech company actually take responsibility and not try to weasel out.

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    3 months ago

    The crashes also come just weeks after one of the manufacturers announced it was integrating a new mapping system trained on “Pokémon Go” data which is designed to improve navigation accuracy.

    Oh, great, so Nintendo is logging where its players are traveling and selling that data?

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        3 months ago

        I’m surprised how many people didn’t realise this. I used to play Ingress, which was also from Niantic and similar to Pokémon Go but involved agents and hacking POIs rather than Pokémon trainers and Poké Stops.

        Niantic discussed at the time that this was to support their work on the N+1 navigation problem, although I can’t for the life of me find a quoatable reference for this. I played Ingress knowing that my location data was being harvested thinking it was to solve a problem.

        I also wonder how many people realise Niantic Labs was started as a Google internal startup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niantic%2C_Inc.

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          I joined Ingress during the closed beta, and technically still play, incredibly rarely. Before they started monetizing it with boosts and extra item storage and stuff, it was a really cool, unique game. Meet up with other players of both factions and either blanket the town and spend a couple hours hacking every portal high enough level to give good gear, or battle live for control of real locations. I once fought off a couple by myself, the three of us frantically running around a playground/park for like 90 minutes. Good fun, good exercise too.

          When PGO was released, and the swarm of new players to effectively the same game (same backend, same locations, just a different visual and Pokémon instead of Portals and Lore) lots of places got bitchy about people coming around and not buying stuff, getting very Karen about the situation. Pair that with the desire to cash in on both games, and then tightening the requirements and restrictions for android (for a long time, I couldn’t play because I was running GrapheneOS).

          I still fire it up when I think about it and have some time, but I haven’t been to a meet-up in over a decade, even longer for an official event. I’m still level 8, so I can interact with all items afaik, but my stats are basically a time capsule of a time forgotten.

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        3 months ago

        That’s kind of the point of those AR games. It’s been obvious from the beginning.

        This is a surprise to no one, assuming you have been paying attention.

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    3 months ago

    How fucking hard is it to put a $2 ultrasonic distance sensor on the front. I built robots when I was a kid that wouldn’t do this.

    This has been solved for 50 years FFS. Yet here we are with techbros thinking cameras can solve everything.

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      3 months ago

      ($2 * number of robots * labor cost to install one * labor cost to update and integrate) > (cost of settling potential lawsuit)

      publicly traded companies are actually super predictable

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    3 months ago

    What’s crazy is, bus stops, and their associated shelters DO NOT MOVE. So there’s no need to even detect them if you just code the things properly. The GPS is accurate enough to avoid them entirely using proper mapping. This particular problem should NOT be happening at all, no matter how poor the detection equipment or algorithms are.

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    3 months ago

    Watching the robot cheerfully veer into the glass panel like a drunk on a lawn mower absolutely sent me. My sides.

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      3 months ago

      Just watched the video. It’s hilarious that it breaks the glass, pauses for a few awkward moments, bats its eyes, backs up, then just sits there batting its eyes.

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    3 months ago

    Does it mean pokémon go players also routinely crash into bus stops?

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      3 months ago

      I have no doubt the training data includes drunk players, so yes!

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          As someone who wore heelies for years. It still angers me deeply how few people who wear them actually know how tp fucking use them well at all.

          It’s just the most unathletic kids with no sense of balance barely able to go in a straight like for like 3 feet and run into everything.

          Someone who’s actually good with them can move fluidly quickly and stop on a dime. You should NEVER be at risk of running into someone even if your going quickly.

          You can literally do a glorified pirouette and disperse your momentum basically in under a quarter of a foot even from the equivalent of a sprint in terms of speed. Drop your toes shift your center of gravity back and slightly towards your dominant foot and spin. You will slide forward slightly while spinning toward the heel of your dominant foot. Your momentum will make it want to shove you down into your foot keeping you planted and prevents you from falling over.

          ):<