You will own nothing and be happy about it.

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    3 months ago

    No, he actually said “There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.”

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      If that scenario comes true I will change careers from Computer Science and become either a blacksmith or a woodworker. I am entirely serious.

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        2 months ago

        There has been a spitfire of such deceivingly titled articles being posted here within the past couple of days.

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      Yeah… I received the email teasing their upcoming announcement.

      Here is the text in full for the context:

      We’ve spent the last six years in Framework proving that it’s possible to build high-performance, thin, light computers that last longer and respect your rights through repairability, upgradeability, and customization. We’re happy to see repair rapidly becoming the norm rather than the exception, with even Apple of all companies embracing it on their latest notebook. I built this company specifically to reset and fix a broken industry. So, mission accomplished? Not quite. There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.

      Memory, storage, silicon, and everything related to it is being consumed at unprecedented levels in a “winner takes all” race to an AI-first world in which access to compute is metered by the token. It’s clear that the fundamentals of computing and electronics have changed. The computer in the cloud has increasingly greater economic output than the computer in the hand. This means that to the extent that there are constraints on the supply that feeds both, the cloud will win every time. We see this in the rapidly rising costs of silicon and all of the devices that depend on it, the shift from ownership to subscription, and the rise of closed black boxes over an open ecosystem. What does this all mean? The industry is asking you to own nothing and be happy. Computers are no longer a bicycle for the mind. They are becoming the self-driving car that takes you directly to the destination.

      You might be reading all of this and thinking, is this a farewell letter to personal computing? Is this the end of Framework? No, this is a manifesto. No matter how inevitable the AI-takes-all scenario may sound, as long as there is a person in the world who still wants to own their means of computation, we will be here to build the hardware that enables it. That means computers that you can own at the deepest level and do what you want with, whether that is choosing your OS, modifying your hardware, or even just keeping your data and computation local rather than leased from the cloud. We won’t get there all at once, but we will always be fighting for a future where you can own everything and be free.

      Every step we take and every product we ship serves that goal. With that, we’re happy to announce that we have our next live launch event coming on April 21st at 10:30am Pacific time in San Francisco. During the event, we’ll be streaming our announcements live to the Framework YouTube channel. You can subscribe and get notified when the stream goes live. We can’t wait for you to see what we’ve been working on.

      These products are for you, so we’re opening a batch of invitations to the Framework Community so you can meet the team and get hands on with our newest products. Having community members at our event last year was a lot of fun, and we can’t wait for you to join us alongside press and partners. If you’re a Framework fan and are in the San Francisco area (or are able to handle your own travel to us), you can apply to attend in this sign-up form. We expect we’ll see a lot more interest than we have available seats in our venue, so don’t wait to get your application in.

      We have one other update for you ahead of our launch event, which is that our products are now available to ship to four additional countries: New Zealand, Norway, Switzerland, and Singapore. You can start ordering everything we have in-stock now, though you may want to wait until the 21st to see what we’re announcing!

      For a hint at what we’ll be announcing, head to the event page.

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      2 months ago

      There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead

      I guess that’s technically what he said, just not all of it. 🙄

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          “Anyone who thinks murder is okay is an evil person.”

          Anyone who thinks murder is okay is an evil person.

          Headline: “Local madman says murder is okay.”

          I fucking hate this, but in the age of tiktok and instagram, it’s a serious problem. I’m afraid to speak in public because soo many things can sound really bad with all the context removed. In fact, it’s nearly impossible to take a principled stance without exposing yourself to that risk.

          And then when I say “that’s taken out of context and twisted to sound way worse than it is,” people hit me with the “cOnTeXt DoEsN’t MatTeR!!1!1! tHeRe’S nO wAy To JuStIfY wHaT yOu SaId!”

          No way to justify how it sounds out of context, but if you hear it within context you’ll understand that that’s not even what I was saying in the first place.

          But people don’t care about that. They care about ragebait, content, and engagement. And tech giants can manipulate algorithms to smear anyone who’s too vocal against them…

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            Anyone who says context doesn’t matter, probably isn’t worth wasting your time with the discussion.

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    I’ll of course hold on to my current laptop for as long as it lasts, but a Framework will be up next.

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        If my dentist is a racist, should I not go to the dentist? Seems like letting my oral hygiene suffer because of it would be a case of cutting off my nose to spite my face. In your search for a life lived in ideologically purity have you found some acceptable alternative?

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          If my dentist is a racist, should I not go to the dentist?

          Dude, haven’t you seen Marathon Man?

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      I feel like an absolute idiot for ever being anti-laptop. I got a framework and my PC immediately became a server. One of the best investments I have ever made.

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        Yes! Laptops do have their cons but I feel like all the people who are anti laptop are just people that have never got to experience great it is to have a laptop.

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          quite the opposite. if I never experienced laptop I’d probably want one. the idea of the laptop is cool… but the only reason I’m anti laptop is because I have worked with laptops. of all kinds too, from the shitty basically no hardware ones to the gaming laptops i can play the latest games and work with blender on. they’re all uncomfortable. desktop rules.

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    Didn’t Apple just launch a $600 laptop?

    Edit: everyone made a bunch of really great points. Mine was more about addressing the affordability angle of a dying Personal Computing.

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      It has indeed. One with 8GB RAM, not upgradable. Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.

      Don’t get me wrong, it is a fantastic offer but decisively non-modular and non upgradeable and no freedom of operating system choice. Framework’s laptop’s are the opposite, they are modular, upgradeable and easily repairable, with replacement parts being sold at a fair price.

      The new Apple Neo has come a long way with a relatively clean interior and decently easy battery replacement procedure. That is less their own doing though and more them preparing for new EU legislation mandating exactly that.

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          No you can’t, not any Linux. Just a single one, Asahi Linux and that only on M1 and M2 nothing newer and that is not a flawless experience either and recommended only for those understanding the limitations.

          But I wasn’t even talking about other MacBooks, I was talking about the Apple Neo and there not even Asahi Linux runs, at least I am not aware of any fork that would work. Correct me please if you know more.

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            I did some googling and it seems you are right, at least for now. I expect Linux support for ARM macs will continue to expand.

            As far as I can tell it’s a limitation if moving from the more popular x86 to ARM with some other hardware related caveats. Importantly, the macs are aren’t locked from booting other OSes, its just the hardware support hasn’t caught up yet.

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      Hyprland might have some toxic community issues but calling it the project of Nazis is outright disinformation. The guy behind Omarchy is also likely not a Nazi, he might be called right extreme through, certainly anti-Islam and anti-Immigration. Nothing of that bleeds into the Omarchy project which has really nothing to do with politics. Now the question is are you going to support an apolitical project that you like for its merits, if the key person behind it is far right, or do you not?

      I can understand both positions but just supporting such a project, doesn’t make every supporter a right extreme, let alone a Nazi. That is hyperbole.

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        You realize that “apolitical” is an extremely well-known nazi dog-whistle / pure apologetics these days, right? I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy framework, that’s your call to make, and my threshold-to-nazi is clearly different from yours, but I do think people should at least look at who they’re in bed with.

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            Sure everything has a definition. Like antropsophy - doesn’t mean it makes sense.

            IMO there is no such thing as “apolitical”. Organisations or projects where money or resources flow are automatically political. Because where are the resources or the money coming from?

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              So absolutely every commercial activity is “political”? What is the political nature of selling sheep cheese for example?

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                There is a political movement opposing the making and selling of sheep cheese: Veganism -> the ethical part of it is political.

                How much do you pay the workers selling the cheese? -> political

                How are you allowed to buy sheep? Online? In a package? Are you allowed to clone it? -> political

                How many taxes do you pay - how much does “big sheep”? -> political

                So while it mostly is not a political act of you to sell the sheep-cheese there are a lot of political questions surrounding the selling of it.

                It can however also be a political act: selling sheep’s milk at a religious event that is strictly against sheep’s being milked by humans can be seen as a form of protest.

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                  Veganism may be political, but to construe selling sheep cheese as a political statement against veganism is absurd.